Comments on: Global official aid falls - NZ languishes at the back http://lancewiggs.com/2008/04/09/global-official-aid-falls-nz-languishes-at-the-back/ NZ Internet, Media and Business Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:44:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Child Drugging and Evil Psychiatrists « Lance Wiggs http://lancewiggs.com/2008/04/09/global-official-aid-falls-nz-languishes-at-the-back/#comment-10696 Child Drugging and Evil Psychiatrists « Lance Wiggs Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:36:33 +0000 http://elevatorfactoids.wordpress.com/?p=771#comment-10696 [...] Sure enough - a little while later I saw a few protesters being interviewed by police. Guys - if you want to draw attention to yourselves then wearing masks is a great way of doing so. It reminded me of the 2000 World bank protests where tens of thousands of people inarticulately yelled for change. (For a more articulate version read the latest by Stiglitz) [...] [...] Sure enough - a little while later I saw a few protesters being interviewed by police. Guys - if you want to draw attention to yourselves then wearing masks is a great way of doing so. It reminded me of the 2000 World bank protests where tens of thousands of people inarticulately yelled for change. (For a more articulate version read the latest by Stiglitz) [...]

]]> By: Natalie Ferguson http://lancewiggs.com/2008/04/09/global-official-aid-falls-nz-languishes-at-the-back/#comment-10525 Natalie Ferguson Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:09:24 +0000 http://elevatorfactoids.wordpress.com/?p=771#comment-10525 Aww man I was just about to link to Kiva! I think they have the philosophy right, but it's not the only way. Yes you need emergency aid, but emergencies shouldn't last 10 years and if they do, you gotta be giving handouts AND some kind of infrastructure. However, I do think we tend to spend centuries getting other countries into problems, then want to sort those problems out in 10 years max. I agree with Raf, we can't be giving aid with one hand and causing problems with the other Aww man I was just about to link to Kiva!

I think they have the philosophy right, but it’s not the only way. Yes you need emergency aid, but emergencies shouldn’t last 10 years and if they do, you gotta be giving handouts AND some kind of infrastructure.

However, I do think we tend to spend centuries getting other countries into problems, then want to sort those problems out in 10 years max.

I agree with Raf, we can’t be giving aid with one hand and causing problems with the other

]]> By: Raf http://lancewiggs.com/2008/04/09/global-official-aid-falls-nz-languishes-at-the-back/#comment-10462 Raf Wed, 09 Apr 2008 07:12:01 +0000 http://elevatorfactoids.wordpress.com/?p=771#comment-10462 Some aid is useful especially for emergency situations but perhaps certain countries could stop selling arms to all and sundry as that might have a more beneficial effect. I like the Kiva model myself. P2P lending. Basic, simple and avoids the bureaucrats (so far). www.kiva.org/lender/raf4143 Some aid is useful especially for emergency situations but perhaps certain countries could stop selling arms to all and sundry as that might have a more beneficial effect.

I like the Kiva model myself. P2P lending. Basic, simple and avoids the bureaucrats (so far).

http://www.kiva.org/lender/raf4143

]]> By: Owld Grumbleton http://lancewiggs.com/2008/04/09/global-official-aid-falls-nz-languishes-at-the-back/#comment-10461 Owld Grumbleton Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:51:46 +0000 http://elevatorfactoids.wordpress.com/?p=771#comment-10461 Depends on your point of view. Thare's a lot of evidence to suggest that all that this Western aid has produced is a dependency culture and corrupt agency behaviour in aid's recipient governments. It sounds rough, but if we concentrated on education and infrastructure, and got out over time, would aid recipients start to fend for themselves? Our current methods seem to get them even more dependent on aid, not less. By way of analogy, how does a country with record low unemployment have record highs in food bank demand? Because rational people don't turn down a free lunch. Aid does not help in the long run, only to fix disasters and start-up conditions.. Depends on your point of view. Thare’s a lot of evidence to suggest that all that this Western aid has produced is a dependency culture and corrupt agency behaviour in aid’s recipient governments.

It sounds rough, but if we concentrated on education and infrastructure, and got out over time, would aid recipients start to fend for themselves? Our current methods seem to get them even more dependent on aid, not less.

By way of analogy, how does a country with record low unemployment have record highs in food bank demand? Because rational people don’t turn down a free lunch.

Aid does not help in the long run, only to fix disasters and start-up conditions..

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