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	<title>Comments on: Fix the Berl report on alcohol and drugs</title>
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		<title>By: Fixing the Berl report &#8211; some progress made &#171; Lance Wiggs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fixing the Berl report &#8211; some progress made &#171; Lance Wiggs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] as Eric Crampton writes in the comments in the previous post that he had a beer (love that) with David Slack from Berl and subsequently made some adjustments to [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] as Eric Crampton writes in the comments in the previous post that he had a beer (love that) with David Slack from Berl and subsequently made some adjustments to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Crampton</title>
		<link>http://lancewiggs.com/2009/07/03/fix-the-berl-report-on-alcohol-and-drugs/#comment-12952</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Crampton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh: I&#039;m at Canterbury; Matt is CEO of iPredict.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh: I&#8217;m at Canterbury; Matt is CEO of iPredict.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Crampton</title>
		<link>http://lancewiggs.com/2009/07/03/fix-the-berl-report-on-alcohol-and-drugs/#comment-12951</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Crampton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BERL has made one minor adjustment in response to our criticisms: they have stopped counting excise tax revenues as a cost of harmful drinking.  I had a beer with Adrian Slack on the Wednesday night; he suggested a couple of bits I might want to double check.  I double-checked them and fixed errors amounting to $36 million in additional external costs, while adding in $197 million in excise-equivalent tax revenue that Treasury pointed me to.  Our net external cost measure is now negative, though I&#039;d still say that either number was insignificantly different from zero given margins of error in this kind of work.

BERL&#039;s main response thus far is that my critique hinges critically on strict rationality assumptions.  Of course, I&#039;ve rebutted that more than a few times, most thoroughly &lt;a href=&quot;http://offsettingbehaviour.blogspot.com/2009/07/final-word-on-rationality.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  Follow the &quot;BERL&quot; tag there for the whole sordid affair.

We&#039;re going to put up a revised/corrected version of our paper end week or early next week to incorporate the bits at the top.  We&#039;ve asked Adrian Slack if he has any other bits where he&#039;s pretty sure we&#039;ve mucked up (entirely possible since we had no access to any of their underlying workings and their paper is opaque at best in parts).  We&#039;ll see what else, if anything, they have to recommend after having now had more than three weeks to look it over.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BERL has made one minor adjustment in response to our criticisms: they have stopped counting excise tax revenues as a cost of harmful drinking.  I had a beer with Adrian Slack on the Wednesday night; he suggested a couple of bits I might want to double check.  I double-checked them and fixed errors amounting to $36 million in additional external costs, while adding in $197 million in excise-equivalent tax revenue that Treasury pointed me to.  Our net external cost measure is now negative, though I&#8217;d still say that either number was insignificantly different from zero given margins of error in this kind of work.</p>
<p>BERL&#8217;s main response thus far is that my critique hinges critically on strict rationality assumptions.  Of course, I&#8217;ve rebutted that more than a few times, most thoroughly <a href="http://offsettingbehaviour.blogspot.com/2009/07/final-word-on-rationality.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  Follow the &#8220;BERL&#8221; tag there for the whole sordid affair.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re going to put up a revised/corrected version of our paper end week or early next week to incorporate the bits at the top.  We&#8217;ve asked Adrian Slack if he has any other bits where he&#8217;s pretty sure we&#8217;ve mucked up (entirely possible since we had no access to any of their underlying workings and their paper is opaque at best in parts).  We&#8217;ll see what else, if anything, they have to recommend after having now had more than three weeks to look it over.</p>
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		<title>By: siobhan bulfin</title>
		<link>http://lancewiggs.com/2009/07/03/fix-the-berl-report-on-alcohol-and-drugs/#comment-12944</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[siobhan bulfin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 06:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oh spot on!
I&#039;m sooo pleased someone wrote an intelligent rebuttal to that shoddy piece of overpriced research of spurious value.
Keep up the great blogging.
Yours all impassioned and inspired
Siobhan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh spot on!<br />
I&#8217;m sooo pleased someone wrote an intelligent rebuttal to that shoddy piece of overpriced research of spurious value.<br />
Keep up the great blogging.<br />
Yours all impassioned and inspired<br />
Siobhan</p>
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